Ganesha in VEDA..!


- The title "Leader of the group" (Sanskrit: gaṇapati) occurs twice in the Rig Veda. The term appears in RV 2.23.1 as a title for Brahmanaspati, according to commentators.While this verse doubtless refers to Brahmanaspati, it was later adopted for worship of Ganesha and is still used today.
- Two verses in texts belonging to Black Yajurveda, Maitrāyaṇīya Saṃhitā (2.9.1) and Taittirīya Āraṇyaka (10.1), appeal to a deity as "the tusked one" (Dantiḥ), "elephant-faced" (Hastimukha), and "with a curved trunk" (Vakratuņḍa).
scholars commentary :
- Mr.Krishan considers these hymns to be post-Vedic additions.
- Mr.Thapan reports that these passages are "generally considered to have been interpolated".
- Mr.Dhavalikar says, "the references to the elephant-headed deity in the Maitrāyaṇī Saṃhitā have been proven to be very late interpolations, and thus are not very helpful for determining the early formation of the deity".
- Ganesha does not appear in Indian epic literature that is dated to the Vedic period
conclusion :

Its very clearly explained by the scholars that what devotees of lord ganesha have is false hope.. the character which is not referred in both veda and upanisha and even in gita, being worshiped widely by my fellow hindu people. The base of Hinduism is veda (like text book) from which the Upanishads, manusmrithi, arthasastra, brammasutras, and puranas are being developed (like notes).. so something what veda not teaches, gives no benefit to the devotee..

I had a Question on a versus of GITA.!



Bhagavad-gītā 15.15

"...., By all the Vedas, I am to be known. Indeed, I am the compiler of Vedānta, and I am the knower of the Vedas".

Bahavath gita 9:17 

".... I am also the Rig, the Säma and the Yajur Vedas".

- There is no single word called "Krishna" exist in any of three rig, yajur. and sama vedas..! then how do we believe its true?
- It can be true only if we understand GOD by his attributes and definitions that defined by his scriptures rather then by name.
- So just forget about all the name given in the vedas such as agni, indra, siva, vishnu, vayu and etc etc., know him as described by gita..

"... He(GOD) is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval..". - gita 2:20

- This indicates the concept of "MONOTHEISM". Which is the same teachings of AL-Quran.

Say, "Allah[God] is One; Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him. - (AlQuran Surat Al-'Ikhlāş 112.)

- The different name in veda and purana must be raised because of different language and different era because its the fact that RIG Veda itself written by 10 different authors at different period. Huge time gap exists between every sacred books.
- People changes from time to time but not GOD, so its better to know him by his attributes.
- As i understood QURAN is the recent revelation by god almighty and he chooses his name as ALLAH that holds the very same definition of his attributes. and all veda/scriptures are his and all name mentioned in that was his, and he rejected those because people has given those the name to the creations.

conclusion:

- if i accept gita is given by the god who gave all vedas, why i should not accept quran is given by the same god. because i see significant number of similarities, signs, peace among them!
- Many blames muslims, but i see the teachings, not the followers. because as a follower, i made mistake when i was hindu, and i make even now as a muslim. if one can be so pure and holy, what is the need of religion and guidance?
- Many blames the teachings of quran, but i see the logic behind it ans none of the scripture is exceptional in it.
- Many see blames the prophet saw, but i look at those people who is lack in the knowledge of islam. He is outstanding personalty i ever red about, written by many non-Muslim legends.

Note:

- The reason we avoid atharvana is, gita itself not recognizing it in 9:17, and its mentioned nowhere else in the entire bahavathgita. the reason may be either it must reveled before atharvana or it must not be the veda. but i see it in commentary where the scholars added it wherever the veda mentioned in gita.

- Example of Metaphorical work : the attached picture is a versus of gita in the original lyrics there is no word mentioned called "krishna" but in commentary he says its all talking about him only. i strongly object its a metaphorical and misinterpretation of a scripture. if this is possible in the era, everything is so transparent, how can i believe there was no misinterpretation or addition or deletion done into old scripture which has no clear evidence of its origin.

Ref :

1) http://www.ulc.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/English-Quran-With-Commentaries.pdf
2) http://www.mayapurworldwide.org/pdf/Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is.pdf
3) http://eternalreligion.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/godisone.pdf
4) http://www.scribd.com/doc/206030333/The-Satanic-Verses-of-Bhagavad-gita
5) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR1Ww0tdLH4
6) http://www.islamawareness.net/Hinduism/ZakirNaik/part9.html
7) https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080725153736AAngufe
8) http://www.attachowk.com/quran%20gita%20debate.aspx
9) http://gita-blog.blogspot.in/2010/11/god-is-one.html
10) http://www.jagatgururampalji.org/lord_krishna_supreme_god.php
11) http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/gita/index.htm
12) http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/gita/agsgita.htm
Photo: I had a Question on a versus of GITA.!

Bhagavad-gītā 15.15

"...., By all the Vedas, I am to be known. Indeed, I am the compiler of Vedānta, and I am the knower of the Vedas".

Bahavath gita 9:17

".... I am also the Rig, the Säma and the Yajur Vedas".

- There is no single word called "Krishna" exist in any of three rig, yajur. and sama vedas..! then how do we believe its true?
- It can be true only if we understand GOD by his attributes and definitions that defined by his scriptures rather then by name.
- So just forget about all the name given in the vedas such as agni, indra, siva, vishnu, vayu and etc etc., know him as described by gita..

"... He(GOD) is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval..". - gita 2:20

- This indicates the concept of "MONOTHEISM". Which is the same teachings of AL-Quran.

Say, "Allah[God] is One; Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him. - (AlQuran Surat Al-'Ikhlāş 112.)

- The different name in veda and purana must be raised because of different language and different era because its the fact that RIG Veda itself written by 10 different authors at different period. Huge time gap exists between every sacred books.
- People changes from time to time but not GOD, so its better to know him by his attributes.
- As i understood QURAN is the recent revelation by god almighty and he chooses his name as ALLAH that holds the very same definition of his attributes. and all veda/scriptures are his and all name mentioned in that was his, and he rejected those because people has given those the name to the creations.

conclusion:

- if i accept gita is given by the god who gave all vedas, why i should not accept quran is given by the same god. because i see significant number of similarities, signs, peace among them!
- Many blames muslims, but i see the teachings, not the followers. because as a follower, i made mistake when i was hindu, and i make even now as a muslim. if one can be so pure and holy, what is the need of religion and guidance?
- Many blames the teachings of quran, but i see the logic behind it ans none of the scripture is exceptional in it.
- Many see blames the prophet saw, but i look at those people who is lack in the knowledge of islam. He is outstanding personalty i ever red about, written by many non-Muslim legends.

Note:

- The reason we avoid atharvana is, gita itself not recognizing it in 9:17, and its mentioned nowhere else in the entire bahavathgita. the reason may be either it must reveled before atharvana or it must not be the veda. but i see it in commentary where the scholars added it wherever the veda mentioned in gita.

- Example of Metaphorical work : the attached picture is a versus of gita in the original lyrics there is no word mentioned called "krishna" but in commentary he says its all talking about him only. i strongly object its a metaphorical and misinterpretation of a scripture. if this is possible in the era, everything is so transparent, how can i believe there was no misinterpretation or addition or deletion done into old scripture which has no clear evidence of its origin.






Ref :

1) http://www.ulc.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/English-Quran-With-Commentaries.pdf
2) http://www.mayapurworldwide.org/pdf/Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is.pdf
3) http://eternalreligion.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/godisone.pdf
4) http://www.scribd.com/doc/206030333/The-Satanic-Verses-of-Bhagavad-gita
5) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR1Ww0tdLH4
6) http://www.islamawareness.net/Hinduism/ZakirNaik/part9.html
7) https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080725153736AAngufe
8) http://www.attachowk.com/quran%20gita%20debate.aspx
9) http://gita-blog.blogspot.in/2010/11/god-is-one.html
10) http://www.jagatgururampalji.org/lord_krishna_supreme_god.php
11) http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/gita/index.htm
12) http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/gita/agsgita.htm

TRINITY is non-scriptural :-



The Bible claims Trinity on the basis of following versus.

A) Matthew 28:19 which is proved to be fabrication, 

Proof : 
1) http://jesus-messiah.com/apologetics/catholic/matthew-proof.html
2) http://www.everlastingkingdom.info/article/128/
3) http://www.icr.org/bible/Matthew/28/8-20/
4) http://www.torahofmessiah.com/morematthew28.htm

B) 1 John 5:7 that does not exist in Greek manuscript

Proof :
1) http://www.answering-christianity.com/1john5_7.htm
2) http://www.angelfire.com/space/thegospeltruth/trinity/verses/1Jn5_7.html

and etc..

References :
1) http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/03/god-is-not-a-trinity/
2) http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac/cor2.htm
3) http://www.angelfire.com/space/thegospeltruth/trinity.html
Photo: TRINITY is non-scriptural :-

The Bible claims Trinity on the basis of following versus.

A) Matthew 28:19 which is proved to be fabrication,

Proof :
1) http://jesus-messiah.com/apologetics/catholic/matthew-proof.html
2) http://www.everlastingkingdom.info/article/128/
3) http://www.icr.org/bible/Matthew/28/8-20/
4) http://www.torahofmessiah.com/morematthew28.htm

B) 1 John 5:7 that does not exist in Greek manuscript

Proof :
1) http://www.answering-christianity.com/1john5_7.htm
2) http://www.angelfire.com/space/thegospeltruth/trinity/verses/1Jn5_7.html

and etc..

References :
1) http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/03/god-is-not-a-trinity/
2) http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac/cor2.htm
3) http://www.angelfire.com/space/thegospeltruth/trinity.html

What is quran.? Science & signs..

Quran is not the complete book of science.. it has few science information that humans doesn't know before to prove its the word of the creator. Many atheist points out some science theory that doesn't match with Islamic science.. however science that we know is changes day to day..

for example, 
1) Einstein relativity theory is incompatible with modern quantum mechanics theory 

ref : 


2) The particles of atom was three (neutron, electron and photon), now the forth one has been discovered which makes what we studied in schools was wrong. 




ref :

குறையை மறைத்தல்

தமிழர் சமயம் 

அற்றம் மறைக்கும் பெருமை சிறுமைதான்
குற்றமே கூறி விடும். (குறள் 980)

பொருள்: பெருமைப் பண்பு பிறருடைய குறைப்பாட்டை மறைக்கும், சிறுமையோ பிறருடைய குற்றத்தையே எடுத்துச் சொல்லிவிடும்.

இஸ்லாம்  

''ஓர் அடியானின் குறையை மற்றொரு அடியான் மறைத்தால் அவனது குறையை அல்லாஹ் மறுமை நாளில் மறைக்கிறான்.'' (ஸஹீஹ் முஸ்லிம்

 நம்பிக்கை கொண்டோரே! ஊகங் களில் அதிகமானதை விட்டு விலகிக் கொள்ளுங்கள்! சில ஊகங்கள் பாவமாகும். (பிறரின் குறைகளை) துருவித் துருவி ஆராயாதீர்கள்! உங்களில் ஒருவர் மற்றவரைப் புறம் பேசாதீர்கள்! உங்களில் எவரேனும் இறந்த தமது சகோதரனின் மாமிசத்தைச் சாப்பிட விரும்புவாரா? அதை வெறுப்பீர்கள். அல்லாஹ்வை அஞ்சுங்கள்! அல்லாஹ் மன்னிப்பை ஏற்பவன்; நிகரற்ற அன்புடையோன். (அல்குர்ஆன் (49:12))

கிறிஸ்தவம் 

நீயும் இன்னொருவனும் ஒத்துப்போகாவிட்டால் இனி என்ன செய்யலாம் என்பதை உங்களுக்குள் பேசி முடிவுசெய். அடுத்தவனின் இரகசியத்தை வெளியில் கூறாதே. நீ அவ்வாறு செய்தால், பிறகு அவமானப்படுவாய். அதற்குப் பிறகு உன் அவப்பெயர் எப்போதும் நீங்காது. (நீதிமொழிகள் 25:9-10)

கர்த்தாவே, சரியான வாழ்க்கை வாழ உமது வழியைக்காட்டும். ஜனங்கள் எனது குறைகளைத் தேடுகிறார்கள். எனவே நான் எவ்வாறு வாழ நீர் விரும்புகிறீரோ, அவ்வழியை எனக்குக் காட்டும். (சங்கீதம் 5:8)