Gita லேபிளுடன் இடுகைகளைக் காண்பிக்கிறது. அனைத்து இடுகைகளையும் காண்பி
Gita லேபிளுடன் இடுகைகளைக் காண்பிக்கிறது. அனைத்து இடுகைகளையும் காண்பி

have anyone seen god? what gita says?

Gita says in Chap 11. TEXT 48. The original song is 

na veda-yajnadhyayanair na danair
na ca kriyabhir na tapobhir ugraih
evam-rupah sakya aham nr-loke
drastum tvad anyena kuru-pravira

Meaning word by word given by a scholar in "GITA AS IT IS":
na--never; veda--Vedic study; yajna--sacrifice; adhyayanaih--study; na danaih--by charity; na--never; ca--also; kriyabhih--by pious activities; na tapobhih--by serious penances; ugraih--severe; evam--thus; rupah--form; sakyah--can be seen; aham--I; nr-loke--in this material world; drastum--to see; tvat--you; anyena--by another; kuru-pravira--O best among the Kuru warriors.

His translated meaning !
O best of the Kuru warriors, no one before you has ever seen this universal form of Mine, for neither by studying the Vedas, nor by performing sacrifices, nor by charities or similar activities can this form be seen. Only you have seen this.

But the real meaning word by word is :
na--never; veda-- veda; yajna--sacrifice; adhyayanaih--study; na danaih-- charity; na--never; ca--also; kriyabhih-- pious activities; na tapobhih-- penances; ugraih--severe; evam--in this way; rupah--appearance; sakyah--can be seen; aham--I; nr-loke--in this material world; drastum--to see; tvat-by you; anyena--by another; kuru-pravira-- pure teacher.

Real translation is :
O holy teacher,  veda,  sacrifice study,  charity, also by pious activities, by severe penance, in these way my appearance can Never be seen in this material world.

conclusion :
- These versus says "NO ONE HAS SEEN GOD BY ANY ACTION MENTIONED AT ANYTIME" which means the concept of hinduism is broken here.. As many puranans and myths says god does not appears in front of the one who does hard penances and gives him no boon as he wish 
- These versus looks like god speaks to his employee who positioned as holy guru. 
- We call the holy guru as prophet in Islam. Prophet is just a messenger between people and god just like gita presented. 
- The poem were misrepresented by the translator and the same being taught to the people which is really a big sin.
- These versus means monotheism, that is "THERE IS NO OTHER GODS BUT ONLY ONE" and holy guru which is "GOD'S MESSENGERS" 
- Gita is noway far from Islam if we are able to remove the misrepresentation and misinterpretations. 

questions to ask yourself:
a) where are the following words in the same song which are all used in the scholar's commentary..
  1. Before
  2. Universal
  3. Only you have seen it.
b) What is the meaning of this versus before and after added these words.

Note :

In Islamic perspective, this versus is look like GOD SPEAKS TO THE MESSENGER.
The interpretation done here by the basis of versus-es which sanjaya narrates to the king what happened between krishna and arjuna at the battle field. in the end krishna said ti arjuna that he is going to show his real appearance only to arjuna and added np one else seen before and no one will see as well. and he tells to arjuna this gita is only to him and not to reveal to anyone else.. then
1) how sanjana seen the real roopam of krishna which he shown only to arjuna?
2) how he taught everything at the battle field
3) how one can hide behind and see and listen the whole thing in the battle
4) even if its possible how does he remember everything?

many more questions will rise if you read and analyse "The Gita" yourself...

 Reference :

தமிழில் :

न वेदयज्ञाध्ययनैर्न दानैर्न च क्रियाभिर्न तपोभिरुग्रैः ।
एवंरूपः शक्य अहं नृलोके द्रष्टुं त्वदन्येन कुरुप्रवीर ॥११- ४८॥

ந வேத³யஜ்ஞாத்⁴யயநைர்ந தா³நைர்ந ச க்ரியாபி⁴ர்ந தபோபி⁴ருக்³ரை: |
ஏவம்ரூப: ஸ²க்ய அஹம் ந்ருலோகே த்³ரஷ்டும் த்வத³ந்யேந குருப்ரவீர || 11- 48||

வேத³ யஜ்ஞ அத்⁴யயநை: தா³நை: = வேதங்களாலும், வேள்வியாலும், கல்விகளாலும்,
தானங்களாலும்
க்ரியாபி⁴ = கிரியைகளாலேனும்
உக்³ரை: தப: அபி ச = உக்ரமான தவங்களாலும் கூட
ந்ருலோகே = மனித உலகில்
த்வத் அந்யேந = உன்னையன்றி
ஏவம் ரூப: = இந்த உருவத்தில்
அஹம் த்³ரஷ்டும் ஸ²க்ய = நான் காண இயலாதவன்
குருப்ரவீர = குருகுலத்தில் சிறந்த வீரா!

கொடுக்க படும் கருத்து :
வேதங்களாலும், வேள்வியாலும், கல்விகளாலும், தானங்களாலும், 
கிரியைகளாலேனும், மனித உலகத்தில் என்னை இவ்வடிவத்தில் உன்னையன்றி 
வேறுயாராலும் பார்க்க முடியாது. குருகுலத்தில் சிறந்த வீரா!

உண்மையான பொருள் :
இதில் "த்வத் அந்யேந" என்பதற்கு கொடுக்க படும் பொருள் தவறானது என்பது நம் கருத்து.
த்வத் : உன்னால், அந்யேந : யாராலும். என்று பொருள்.  எனவே இந்த பாடலின் 
பொருளானது இறைவனை யாராலும் எதனாலும் உலகத்தில் காணமுடியாது.

 Ref : 
http://www.sangatham.com/bhagavad_gita/gita-chapter-11

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I had a Question on a versus of GITA.!



Bhagavad-gītā 15.15

"...., By all the Vedas, I am to be known. Indeed, I am the compiler of Vedānta, and I am the knower of the Vedas".

Bahavath gita 9:17 

".... I am also the Rig, the Säma and the Yajur Vedas".

- There is no single word called "Krishna" exist in any of three rig, yajur. and sama vedas..! then how do we believe its true?
- It can be true only if we understand GOD by his attributes and definitions that defined by his scriptures rather then by name.
- So just forget about all the name given in the vedas such as agni, indra, siva, vishnu, vayu and etc etc., know him as described by gita..

"... He(GOD) is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval..". - gita 2:20

- This indicates the concept of "MONOTHEISM". Which is the same teachings of AL-Quran.

Say, "Allah[God] is One; Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him. - (AlQuran Surat Al-'Ikhlāş 112.)

- The different name in veda and purana must be raised because of different language and different era because its the fact that RIG Veda itself written by 10 different authors at different period. Huge time gap exists between every sacred books.
- People changes from time to time but not GOD, so its better to know him by his attributes.
- As i understood QURAN is the recent revelation by god almighty and he chooses his name as ALLAH that holds the very same definition of his attributes. and all veda/scriptures are his and all name mentioned in that was his, and he rejected those because people has given those the name to the creations.

conclusion:

- if i accept gita is given by the god who gave all vedas, why i should not accept quran is given by the same god. because i see significant number of similarities, signs, peace among them!
- Many blames muslims, but i see the teachings, not the followers. because as a follower, i made mistake when i was hindu, and i make even now as a muslim. if one can be so pure and holy, what is the need of religion and guidance?
- Many blames the teachings of quran, but i see the logic behind it ans none of the scripture is exceptional in it.
- Many see blames the prophet saw, but i look at those people who is lack in the knowledge of islam. He is outstanding personalty i ever red about, written by many non-Muslim legends.

Note:

- The reason we avoid atharvana is, gita itself not recognizing it in 9:17, and its mentioned nowhere else in the entire bahavathgita. the reason may be either it must reveled before atharvana or it must not be the veda. but i see it in commentary where the scholars added it wherever the veda mentioned in gita.

- Example of Metaphorical work : the attached picture is a versus of gita in the original lyrics there is no word mentioned called "krishna" but in commentary he says its all talking about him only. i strongly object its a metaphorical and misinterpretation of a scripture. if this is possible in the era, everything is so transparent, how can i believe there was no misinterpretation or addition or deletion done into old scripture which has no clear evidence of its origin.

Ref :

1) http://www.ulc.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/English-Quran-With-Commentaries.pdf
2) http://www.mayapurworldwide.org/pdf/Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is.pdf
3) http://eternalreligion.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/godisone.pdf
4) http://www.scribd.com/doc/206030333/The-Satanic-Verses-of-Bhagavad-gita
5) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR1Ww0tdLH4
6) http://www.islamawareness.net/Hinduism/ZakirNaik/part9.html
7) https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080725153736AAngufe
8) http://www.attachowk.com/quran%20gita%20debate.aspx
9) http://gita-blog.blogspot.in/2010/11/god-is-one.html
10) http://www.jagatgururampalji.org/lord_krishna_supreme_god.php
11) http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/gita/index.htm
12) http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/gita/agsgita.htm
Photo: I had a Question on a versus of GITA.!

Bhagavad-gītā 15.15

"...., By all the Vedas, I am to be known. Indeed, I am the compiler of Vedānta, and I am the knower of the Vedas".

Bahavath gita 9:17

".... I am also the Rig, the Säma and the Yajur Vedas".

- There is no single word called "Krishna" exist in any of three rig, yajur. and sama vedas..! then how do we believe its true?
- It can be true only if we understand GOD by his attributes and definitions that defined by his scriptures rather then by name.
- So just forget about all the name given in the vedas such as agni, indra, siva, vishnu, vayu and etc etc., know him as described by gita..

"... He(GOD) is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval..". - gita 2:20

- This indicates the concept of "MONOTHEISM". Which is the same teachings of AL-Quran.

Say, "Allah[God] is One; Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him. - (AlQuran Surat Al-'Ikhlāş 112.)

- The different name in veda and purana must be raised because of different language and different era because its the fact that RIG Veda itself written by 10 different authors at different period. Huge time gap exists between every sacred books.
- People changes from time to time but not GOD, so its better to know him by his attributes.
- As i understood QURAN is the recent revelation by god almighty and he chooses his name as ALLAH that holds the very same definition of his attributes. and all veda/scriptures are his and all name mentioned in that was his, and he rejected those because people has given those the name to the creations.

conclusion:

- if i accept gita is given by the god who gave all vedas, why i should not accept quran is given by the same god. because i see significant number of similarities, signs, peace among them!
- Many blames muslims, but i see the teachings, not the followers. because as a follower, i made mistake when i was hindu, and i make even now as a muslim. if one can be so pure and holy, what is the need of religion and guidance?
- Many blames the teachings of quran, but i see the logic behind it ans none of the scripture is exceptional in it.
- Many see blames the prophet saw, but i look at those people who is lack in the knowledge of islam. He is outstanding personalty i ever red about, written by many non-Muslim legends.

Note:

- The reason we avoid atharvana is, gita itself not recognizing it in 9:17, and its mentioned nowhere else in the entire bahavathgita. the reason may be either it must reveled before atharvana or it must not be the veda. but i see it in commentary where the scholars added it wherever the veda mentioned in gita.

- Example of Metaphorical work : the attached picture is a versus of gita in the original lyrics there is no word mentioned called "krishna" but in commentary he says its all talking about him only. i strongly object its a metaphorical and misinterpretation of a scripture. if this is possible in the era, everything is so transparent, how can i believe there was no misinterpretation or addition or deletion done into old scripture which has no clear evidence of its origin.



Ref :

1) http://www.ulc.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/English-Quran-With-Commentaries.pdf
2) http://www.mayapurworldwide.org/pdf/Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is.pdf
3) http://eternalreligion.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/godisone.pdf
4) http://www.scribd.com/doc/206030333/The-Satanic-Verses-of-Bhagavad-gita
5) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR1Ww0tdLH4
6) http://www.islamawareness.net/Hinduism/ZakirNaik/part9.html
7) https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080725153736AAngufe
8) http://www.attachowk.com/quran%20gita%20debate.aspx
9) http://gita-blog.blogspot.in/2010/11/god-is-one.html
10) http://www.jagatgururampalji.org/lord_krishna_supreme_god.php
11) http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/gita/index.htm
12) http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/gita/agsgita.htm
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